Comments on: Salt water lamp WaterLight set to power communities without electricity https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/ Thu, 06 Jun 2024 06:47:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Karen https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-203067 Thu, 06 Jun 2024 06:47:50 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-203067 How do we purchase these?

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By: John Crow https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-183039 Sun, 24 Sep 2023 21:30:45 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-183039 I have to agree this is a hyped up marketing campaign to sell a not so sustainable battery powered lamp to ignorant and gullible NGOs and governments. someone is on the make

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By: Rarius https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-146840 Thu, 16 Jun 2022 19:12:49 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-146840 This is just an disposable magnesium/copper inefficient battery with an LED.

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By: Peach L https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-139235 Fri, 18 Mar 2022 13:15:17 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-139235 If DesignWeek2022 is considering this device for an award or even featuring it on its website, the organisation really needs to take a good look at itself.

Debunking the claims:
1. “WaterLight is eco-friendly, being 100% recyclable and waterproof.” *The magnesium block in the device will be used up in the process, and magnesium chloride salt and caustic Sodium Hydroxide (lye) will be produced. For the magnesium to be recyclable, you’d need to send the salt and the lye to a chemical plant. The impression given in the video is that the device is used in a less developed location. It is unlikely there will be a chemical plant there, hence the 100% recyclable claim is bogus.*
2. “So, it’s durable and sustainable, regardless of where it ends up.” *Recovering the magnesium from magnesium chloride will cost a lot of energy, not to mentioned the energy involved in transporting the magnesium chloride to the chemical plant and the energy for running the equipment in the plant. It is a poor use of magnesium and it cannot be considered as sustainable.*
3. “This incredible lantern utilizes the ionization of an electrolyte composed of saltwater, which converts the magnesium inside the lantern.” *What BS is this? The saltwater is the only electrolyte and it is already ionised, while at the sea. There is no need to put it into this device beforehand.*
4. “This small yet mighty circuit makes it possible to extract around 500 watts for each liter of water!” *’Watts’ is not the correct unit to indicate the amount of energy you can draw from the device. It should be in joules/kilojoules and sometimes milliampere hours together with the voltage. Also, the electrical energy comes from the magnesium, not from the saltwater, which is just there to conduct the electricity. Using ‘watts’ or its equivalent, joules/sec, and saying the energy come from the saltwater just indicate the narrator doesn’t understand the shit he’s saying.

A magnesium-copper battery like this will generate about 2.7 volts. If the 500 watts figure is correct, it means the device has 185 000 milliampere hours of charge. A current premium smartphone has 5000 milliampere hours of charge, which means this device has 37 times the charge of a premium smartphone! That’s hard to believe.

5. “Waterlight’s possibilities are endless.” *No, it’s not. After the 45 days, the lantern will stop working and it is thus not “endless”. It will require a major replacement of the magnesium inside to make it work again, but how will you easily find a block on magnesium in a less-developed location? A solar-rechargeable lantern is so much more re-usable.*

6. “It can benefit off-grid communities in need of an electrical source to supply light, charge a cell phone, or listen to a radio.” *While the device can charge a cell phone, the magnesium will be quickly used up and the device’s life will be greatly shortened if used for this purpose.*

7. “…and education – for turning on a computer or a television.” *If you have the electricity to turn on a computer or a television, why would you need this weak lantern to light up your surroundings?

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By: Paul Schifferes https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-139192 Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:26:19 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-139192 This doesn’t “convert salt water to power”. That would be magical.
The energy comes from the electrode potential of the magnesium, and that will run out as it’s oxidised. The magnesium has to be made by electrolysis in an industrial process. The cathode is copper I think, which also comes with an evolutionary impact. So much reporting on this shows remarkable ignorance of basic chemistry.
This may be a particularly long life battery, but this is essentially the same battery technology (two metals with saltwater between them) that was used by Volta in the 1790s!

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By: Lolismo https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-133988 Thu, 30 Dec 2021 02:42:27 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-133988 So how is this different from using a disposable quadruple A battery?

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By: jeff didomenico https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-114197 Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:56:21 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-114197 I would love to contribute to this program, who can I speak with ?

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By: Leo Robert Burgunder https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-113443 Sat, 02 Oct 2021 02:34:10 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-113443 We know the anode is Mg but the cathode material is not specified. Could be carbon. Also not sure how many cells but I think this could also be made from a Zinc or Aluminum anode and Copper cathode cells and pvc pipe fittings as a 8th grade science project. The number of LED’s would dictate the # of cells and lumens emitted. The 5600 operating hour claim seems to good to be true without recharge.

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By: Tomáš Slouka https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-112774 Fri, 24 Sep 2021 06:16:16 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-112774 It is a battery. Salt water is an electrolyte and it contains two metallic electrodes. Those electrodes probably won’t be renewable like wood is. So… this is just a glorified battery, nothing revolutionary, nothing purely ecological,
just
a
battery.

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By: Gadepalli Subrahmanyam https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-april-2021/waterlight/comment-page-1/#comment-111440 Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:21:20 +0000 https://www.designweek.co.uk/?p=276260#comment-111440 Mr. Panchal,
Could you get in touch with me .
gsmani174@gmail.com/9652837050

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